tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post5284871160865427665..comments2024-03-02T13:11:15.533-08:00Comments on Cadia's Creed: Warhammer 40k and the Imperial Guard: Astra Militarum Tactics: BasiliskGrumpy Guardsmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-43027720150087389742014-09-16T06:18:26.936-07:002014-09-16T06:18:26.936-07:00Alternatively, what do you think about the artille...Alternatively, what do you think about the artillery carriage with earthshaker cannons from forgeworld?<br />They are 75 points a piece, and much more survivable with T7 W4 Sv3+ and four-eight crew guardsman to take wounds. <br />I think fielding a squadron of them with a gunline would be quite a good idea, seeing how you don't need to hide them as much as the basilisks, so you will be able to shoot most of the time with the main gunAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17409418898691786525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-46381947054144062022014-09-15T17:58:39.143-07:002014-09-15T17:58:39.143-07:00It is, but you don't always face marines. Ove...It is, but you don't always face marines. Overall the manticore is better generally, with a few situations that the basilisk is better in. I may seem down on it, but its still not a bad piece of artillery, others just do the work better generally.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-51354196856023942552014-09-15T15:59:55.334-07:002014-09-15T15:59:55.334-07:00Against Marines the Basilisk is far better than th...Against Marines the Basilisk is far better than the Manticore. I sometimes use a battery of 2 of them and have wiped out entire squads of tactical and devastator squads with one round of shooting. Manticores still allow them their armour save so most are going to survive.<br /><br />It's best when the have their librarian in the middle of a squad of marines, and you centre the blast directly on top of him. Even if they are in terminator armour you will most likely kill him and a good portion of the squad, and if he is in power armour then they are just all dead. Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08220947321983229574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-48689824990020488282014-09-15T09:56:39.104-07:002014-09-15T09:56:39.104-07:00Yeah that is the big problem they have now, they a...Yeah that is the big problem they have now, they are only marginally better at killing infantry than the manticore, but the manticore is now better at killing vehicles or at lest penning and putting HPs on them. Wyverns are just more efficient at killing infantry so its hard to take a basilisk. Its just ok.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-70523938803583773952014-09-15T09:54:46.352-07:002014-09-15T09:54:46.352-07:00I can do a post later on it. Basically though the...I can do a post later on it. Basically though they function like normal blast weapons with two big exceptions. The first allows them to fire indirectly, which are targets out of LoS, if they do they will always scatter fully unless a hit is rolled. The second is that cover and wound allocation is always taken from the center of the blast. That is the short rundown. Multiple barrages work in that the first fires, do scatter, once its final position is determined roll another scatter and see where it lands. If a hit is rolled you decide where it goes as long as it touches any previous hits. Repeat till out of shots.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-28220241372700786072014-09-15T07:44:03.870-07:002014-09-15T07:44:03.870-07:00The problem with the basilisk is that its a bit......The problem with the basilisk is that its a bit... lacking.<br /><br />With the new rules, you dont destroy a vehicle with it, i sometimes used them to barrage on land raiders even, wich quite worked in old times.<br /><br />Usually we dont need anymore help to kill inf, in that scenario even with marines a pair of wyverns may do better, so now... whats its use? anti tank? nope, you wont destroy a whirlwind per example with one hit, anti inf? overkill on most, not totally bad on marines, but cover saves can overcome its hit so... what now? and in points 125 is not bad... but is not good either.chascaalashttp://www.oferbid.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-28846179785180600002014-09-15T06:22:42.629-07:002014-09-15T06:22:42.629-07:00I just finished building a Basilisk so I really ap...I just finished building a Basilisk so I really appreciate this article.<br />But barrage rules still have me really confused. It isn't worded very clearly in the BRB. Might I suggest another post clarifying it?pyradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290206933074547680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-60194144203491183902014-09-14T17:59:02.807-07:002014-09-14T17:59:02.807-07:00yeah, I just like them behind terrain to keep them...yeah, I just like them behind terrain to keep them alive, and I find a manticore can do that job without having to be visible where the basilisk struggles at that.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-31162973120318850442014-09-14T17:57:39.136-07:002014-09-14T17:57:39.136-07:00Yeah, its an imperial guard staple, they have to b...Yeah, its an imperial guard staple, they have to be careful. Luckily they still are good, just not great. Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-87263078275791123982014-09-14T17:57:25.743-07:002014-09-14T17:57:25.743-07:00I find the 7th edition barrage rules have helped t...I find the 7th edition barrage rules have helped the Basilisk, since if the enemy is within 36" you usually have LOS to them, meaning you can now subtract your BS off the scatter, where previously you couldn't.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08220947321983229574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-62692705329179881322014-09-14T17:51:13.200-07:002014-09-14T17:51:13.200-07:00GW have to be very careful when they touch the Bas...GW have to be very careful when they touch the Basilisk its been around for so long and guard players love it S9 AP3 large blast whats not to love. If they tried to nurf it the Imperial Guard community would be after blood. But saying that no one thought they would change the name but they did. Always like to reading your stuff Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15126069926307645097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-68238309280186693422014-09-14T17:48:56.341-07:002014-09-14T17:48:56.341-07:00True, I read over that section. Blah letting old ...True, I read over that section. Blah letting old rules stay in my head.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-6883882842927975162014-09-14T15:04:10.922-07:002014-09-14T15:04:10.922-07:00Barrage allows you to do indirect fire, but you ca...Barrage allows you to do indirect fire, but you can always do direct fire even inside the minimun range of the weapon. so you can still shoot inside the 36", just as a direct fire weapon.Chascaalashttp://www.oferbid.comnoreply@blogger.com