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There is no Gets Hot for the hot shot volley gun.<br /><br />http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/PDF/Warhammer-40k/7th-faq/Militarum_Tempestus_v1.0_May14.pdfTwoBitWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05211986143162751132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-87356616598642601972014-04-25T21:46:49.460-07:002014-04-25T21:46:49.460-07:00formations work on their own and do not take up an...formations work on their own and do not take up an ally slot. You take the formation as it is. You can have as many as you have points for and as long as your primary detachment is legal.<br /><br />that being said, there are many tournaments that are modifying the rules to where you can only have two rules sources. So you can have an ally, a formation, dataslate, but not more than one. So you can take a formation but not an ally, or vice versa. It depends where and who you are playing with. For standard games with friends you can bring what you want as long as they are ok with it.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-76909059052417073012014-04-25T20:00:27.460-07:002014-04-25T20:00:27.460-07:00Can someone confirm that if you take a formation y...Can someone confirm that if you take a formation you can use it as allies? The Commissar plus THQ is 2 HQ choices making not usable as an ally, but I read some where that YOU can use a formation + ally choice + primary meaning...<br /><br />I could have Astra Militarum as Primary, Dark Angels as allies and have a Tempestus Formation on top of it.<br /><br />Any help would be much appreciated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-6555256666592036092014-04-13T17:46:11.592-07:002014-04-13T17:46:11.592-07:0050 USD translates to 57 NZD, so New Zealanders pay...50 USD translates to 57 NZD, so New Zealanders pay a extra 20 dollars more than most other countries. So if you happen to live in NZ, dont buy this book simple as that. Its not worth the money Runicmadhamsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998940858801320118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-1873207653681358132014-04-11T12:01:40.533-07:002014-04-11T12:01:40.533-07:00Glad they performed so well. I'm liking what ...Glad they performed so well. I'm liking what tauroxes bring, they shoot great, but cannot stand up to a long fire fight. They are about right in pts for a BS4 vehicle with lots of guns and full ten man squad. Measure that against what a razor back can do with only a half transport capacity. They are balanced who knew! <br /><br />Yeah they are looking pretty good so far, and hell hounds will just be great with them, adding armor and firepower to the strike force. Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-45531217680358486792014-04-11T11:57:35.547-07:002014-04-11T11:57:35.547-07:00Yep, plus there is the heavy stubber, its in the r...Yep, plus there is the heavy stubber, its in the refernce section, but by RAW vehicles can only take storm bolters, even though th WD has it being able to take both. <br /><br />For me, we'll be house ruling the warlord trait to detachment instead of platoon, as other wise thats utter sillyness.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-36466172465973509082014-04-11T10:03:40.147-07:002014-04-11T10:03:40.147-07:00As cool as the codex was and the Scions are, ultim...As cool as the codex was and the Scions are, ultimately, I'm staying away from them. As a Blood Angels commander, I already have more than enough choices for getting up close and personal with the enemy, and I'm looking forward to what the Astra Militarum has to offer in the way of fire support. sanguine simisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08676216178883582702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-48832273683059060232014-04-11T10:01:28.454-07:002014-04-11T10:01:28.454-07:00Just adding a little something, I saw the Stormtro...Just adding a little something, I saw the Stormtroopers in action this week at our local store in a 3 vs 3 match where each army had 1500 points. The player, Dennis, fielded the Scions solo for his force and had plenty of fun doing it. sanguine simisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08676216178883582702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-71387493787436562362014-04-11T02:26:40.572-07:002014-04-11T02:26:40.572-07:00Yeah, I paid cca 40 euros for the book. Its produc...Yeah, I paid cca 40 euros for the book. Its production quality is high and, what is more important, the writing suits me. I have spent much more money on bad belletry...:)<br /><br />For the fluff, WH40K has really good fluff. Cheesy, funny, tongue in cheek and still it can be dark, bloody, cruel. Of course, you just cant read bolterporn, its the unhappy side effect.<br /><br />Yes, there are other universes, I dont ignore them, but, truly, contemporary sci-fi is beginning to be weak and empty. But maybe I just read too many sci-fi books in life and Im drifting towards few selected authors, other type of literature and satisfying crazyness of WH40K :)Aleš Smutnýhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05579490610170399199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-62563803880433086312014-04-10T19:28:40.371-07:002014-04-10T19:28:40.371-07:00Rex, here in Spain the book costed me 39 euros. I ...Rex, here in Spain the book costed me 39 euros. I think that translates for about 50 USD more or less. It's a hardback full color book with awesome ilustrations and great background, for me al least, but i recognize that i have a soft spot for anything stormtrooper related :).<br />I know there are great sci-fi universes out there but i really like the 40K universe and i enjoy reading about it especially so maybe this combination of factors are what it makes the purchase of the tempestus codex a really good value for money for me ;)Jose Brutalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02457648247383878353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-77124198905591376812014-04-10T18:45:29.104-07:002014-04-10T18:45:29.104-07:00Hi Grumpy,
so yesterday I had the chance to play ...Hi Grumpy,<br /><br />so yesterday I had the chance to play the Tempestus codex together with the old Guard codex...looks like last game with the old rules hehe. Either way, my Guard were my primary detachment and Tempestus my second, whereas Temestus made almost half of the points of the list. <br /><br />I am not sure if this was legal or not, but the allied detachment of Tempestus was the Ground Formation w/ 4 Tauros, 3 squads, 1 Command and 1 Commissar. It was a friendly game, and my opponent was fine with what I was doing, so I apologize if I did something wrong with building my list.<br /><br />Opponent was Space Wolfs and Tau Allies @ 2000pts. Kept the Tempestus in reserve, while my Lemans and troopers kept pounding away on 1 turn, but crappy rolling on my side. He had good shooting and drop pods.. I lost a good chunk of my primary detachment 1 turn.<br /><br />2 Turn Tempestus formation came in, I split them up slightly 2 Taurox going after the marines drop podded and 2 going after the Tau Hammerhead. And here is where I was surprised..the Taurox gatling gun ripped the darn crap out of the marines + hot-shot volleyfire, one squad was gone! The other two Taurox were equipped with the missile launchers and went after the Hammerhad. It's side was facing me so I hammered those krak missiles + twin linked autocannons into it ---- it blew up...bs4 vehicles are nice! I am not used to this at all!!!<br /><br />In turn 3 I was across the board, forwent shooting for a nice long move with the taurox, I hid them behind terrain. Though cover wasn't good enough, one Taurox got missile spammed and blew up, the other down to 1 hull point, the other 2 anti infantry ones got pummeled down to 2 hp each.<br /><br />Turn 4 Scions dissembarked and with orders (sniper) killed 1 boradside and wounded the other. The second squad got close enough for rapid fire..together with twin link upon dissembarking they killed 9 out of 11 Firewarriors...they ran off the board...<br /><br />This is were the game started to go into my favor, started to take some objectives, while scions kept crippling lone wolfs and other tau.<br /><br />Overall I am surprised about the punch these Taurox can deliver, they are thin as paper though, only crappy rolling on my opponents end, and cover saves saved their meal butts.<br /><br />The scions are awesome, really nasty against anything that doesn't have a invuln, or more than 3+ save. Really really enjoying how they play, a fast and deadly strike force, can't wait to field these with my hellhounds and let the hounds give the taurox cover saves together with their 12 av side and front.<br /><br />Thanks for your time, and sorry for typos, cheers!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11839558835812286141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-39694222547980586362014-04-10T16:56:54.161-07:002014-04-10T16:56:54.161-07:00I dont get that, you would pay 85 USD for the fluf...I dont get that, you would pay 85 USD for the fluff alone? 40k fluff isnt even that good, there are far better sci-fi universes out there and i still wouldn't pay 85 USD for their fluff.<br /><br />I dont hold peoples opinions against them (unless its a vile, hate fueled opinion) but doesn't 85 USD seem a bit too much for fluff alone? (if i got the price wrong i am sorry but different countries and all that jazz)Runicmadhamsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998940858801320118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-59084275749503127922014-04-10T16:10:48.828-07:002014-04-10T16:10:48.828-07:00The Grav-chute Commandos Warlord trait is unusable...The Grav-chute Commandos Warlord trait is unusable without platoons... "units in the same platoon..." The reference to platoons and the non-existence of said platoons makes this useless RAW... Also, there is an entry detailing camo-netting in the wargear section, yet no vehicle has the option to take camo-netting nor comes with it, and there is no point value or even an entry for it in the armory. Another couple of issues that I noted. I find it odd that you could take more Scions in a straight Astra Army than you could in the Tempestus list.<br />This Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15367619778103355596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-76419567961019570242014-04-10T15:57:53.519-07:002014-04-10T15:57:53.519-07:00I cannot agree more with you, Aleš. This book is a...I cannot agree more with you, Aleš. This book is an excellent purchase if only for reading the background part IMO :)Jose Brutalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02457648247383878353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-48810598854782795002014-04-10T15:54:51.558-07:002014-04-10T15:54:51.558-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jose Brutalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02457648247383878353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-21720936913438184852014-04-10T12:38:46.724-07:002014-04-10T12:38:46.724-07:00So, I finally got my Tempestus codex...and I love ...So, I finally got my Tempestus codex...and I love it! Like, seriously... Rules we have seen leaked on internet and WD, but the fluff part is awesome. Maybe its my obsession with commisars and different regiments, but I love to read those short stories, scion regiments, its buzzing with grimdark like WH40K didnt for a long time IMO. Yay and Im just in the half of the book...:)Aleš Smutnýhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05579490610170399199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-49813686592081314212014-04-10T11:17:56.175-07:002014-04-10T11:17:56.175-07:00I'd agree that it could have certainly been an...I'd agree that it could have certainly been an option in the main IG book like DA does it. But I am one of those suckers :p and I love having a dedicated book with fluff and artwork for my favorite IG guys. Also the special orders they have are a nice bonus too and add to their play style as an army rather than a supporting element of IG, thought they could have thrown those in as well, if not being a little confusing on which table you choose from. <br /><br />Well hopefully your DE will get the same love, there are some really cool stuff they can do with them and luckily their rules are decent as is with only needing minor points tweaks and shifting of force org choices. A talos formation would be sweet<br />Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-75462191900220177772014-04-10T10:47:14.447-07:002014-04-10T10:47:14.447-07:00It does seem a little bit money grabbish, if only ...It does seem a little bit money grabbish, if only in the sense that this 'codex' feels like a formation +1 a the price of full codex. Basically what it looks like we have here is someone in GW said "lets take a bit of the work we did for the REAL codex, Astra Mil, feature the new transport we were going to add anyway, give people the chance to field stormtroopers as troops, and slap the full codex price on it. Then we release the full Astra Mil and the same sucker...er customers will pay the full codex price AGAIN and hope they don't realize that Tempest could have been done as an option in Astra Mil, like Ravenwing armies in Dark Angels." I mean really, how hard would it have been to add the Tempest HQ choices with the special rule that says "Stormtroopers may now be taken as troops". That being said, I too think the Tempest concept is cool, and I am mostly just jealous that my beloved Dark Eldar haven't recieved so much as a formation yet, and IG, excuse me, Astra Mil get TWO codexes! Just give me a formation of talosi already! <br /><br />Servicious, The Disgruntled Dark EldarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-83743426138326822842014-04-10T10:05:18.643-07:002014-04-10T10:05:18.643-07:00I guess I've never understood what people mean...I guess I've never understood what people mean when they say "money grab". By definition, it is an undignified acquisition of a large sum of money with little effort. To each his own makes like better, but I do believe they are taking pride in their work, and many GW employees are putting great effort into the hobby. 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