tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post7067822480196316712..comments2024-03-02T13:11:15.533-08:00Comments on Cadia's Creed: Warhammer 40k and the Imperial Guard: Imperial Guard Infantry Tactics: The Bloody Infantry PT3Grumpy Guardsmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-28954461173162071212013-12-09T07:47:55.912-08:002013-12-09T07:47:55.912-08:00I think I covereed him pretty well, he can be a ve...I think I covereed him pretty well, he can be a very good guy to bring but you have to build your army around him. Rahim himself is nothing special, S3 with a plasma pistol and power sword isn't amazing and you are certainly paying for it. His abilities and orders are what make him good.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-44249623484971486732013-12-09T05:39:16.838-08:002013-12-09T05:39:16.838-08:00I think that you have missed captain Al'rahem....I think that you have missed captain Al'rahem. I think people underestimate his potential. He can either come straight in the enemy deployment zone or behind his vehicles and meltagun them. He has basically won several games for me lately. With chaos marines he got on the table and wiped last troop choices and then they have spread through the table so that heldrake and daemon prince(who survived) wouldn't kill them. The pcs has actually rapidfired DP to death with plasma guns after he killed the combined squad. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17409418898691786525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-80294403289399148802013-12-06T12:12:31.529-08:002013-12-06T12:12:31.529-08:00When it comes to the lascannon squads, I agree tha...When it comes to the lascannon squads, I agree that a vendetta is hands down what you should take, but not everyone has one and in that case the Lascannon squads are a good substitute. I find that you just have to mitigate it by good deployment and placement and giving your opponent other targets to shoot at. Also everything the guard has is easy to kill and sure they will prob be dead by the end of the game, but if they did their job and killed the vehicles you needed them too then that's ok. Its a risk reward thing, and its not about how many models you have at the end but how many objectives you have (except that one mission). For me I see the risk as worth it and I take them, nothing wrong if you feel the risk isn't worth it and in some cases it isn't, thats where the strategy part of this game comes from. <br /><br />And Demo charges are fun! :)Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-52708906900835164452013-12-06T12:04:57.901-08:002013-12-06T12:04:57.901-08:00Allies is a whole other can of worms and this was ...Allies is a whole other can of worms and this was meant to really focus on the options within the codex, though I agree that commissars are unnecessary if you are bringing marines to the fight. And I forgot about rahim having BID, thanks.<br /><br />Main issue with including mortars in a squad is that mortars have a minimum range of 12", so they will scatter the full distance when they are at the range that lasguns are most effective. I just think there are better weapons for a squad to take. As for mixing it up in heavy weapon squads, if it works for you then go for it. I find mortars to be more effective as a whole, but I also don't completely hide them either, I put them behind nice cover and some minimal LoS blocking terrain nearby so I can hide them if I need too, and still get to minus BS with having LoS on targets. <br /><br />PCSs are great little spoiler squads, popping in and blasting a squad and then grabbing the objectiveGrumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-62119013442630659972013-12-06T10:38:03.523-08:002013-12-06T10:38:03.523-08:00With the new multiple barrage rules, I think it wo...With the new multiple barrage rules, I think it would be useful to spread single mortars, f.e. a HWT with 2 heavy bolters and one mortar.<br />If all 3 mortars are in one HWT, and the first one misses entirely, the rest will be wasted.<br />If the first one hits, the rest still needs luck to hit, so placing single templates makes the result more average, and forces more pinning checks (max. one per squad, so spread them to more squads).<br /><br />Having mortars in regular 10 man squads doesn't seem that bad too, as they have the same targets as lasguns, could pin down approaching enemies, and (if they move) can still fire a lasgun instead of the heavy weapon.<br />As a maximum, you trade 4 lasgun shots (2 soldiers, 12") against the pinning template, or against 2 shots when moving.<br /><br />Except for what you posted, a few interesting points I'd add to the platoon discussion:<br />-AlRahem has, unlike other platoon commanders, the ability to use "Bring it down", so hunting tanks/MCs works better without needing a (Creed-)CCS nearby<br />-if you go for SpaceMarine allies, forget comissars for the blobs, attach cheap HQs like techmarine or scriptor. ATSKNF means they never get wiped and auto regroup before shooting (no orders necessary, not reduced to snapshots), and they can be geared towards whatever enemy you are facing.<br /> Chapter tactics can augment them further, esp. Hit&Run at I4 can make these guys slippery like hell (yeah, free 3d6 running after cc, screw Eldar&Tau).<br />-spare PCS make awesome cheap objective grabbers when deployed in a valkyrie/vendetta.<br />50p for 4 flamer templates clear an objective from cheap scoring units, and giving themselves the "Run" and "Incoming" order can make them more useful when scoringMajorNesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-62815097928837958872013-12-06T10:34:23.368-08:002013-12-06T10:34:23.368-08:00Hey
Thanks for this article. I overall agree with...Hey<br /><br />Thanks for this article. I overall agree with you.<br />Mortar teams a just awesome. I love these guys.<br />They are totally underestimated! And this is the big win for us.<br />The option to pin a dangerous unit for just one round is totally<br />worth the 35 points!<br />But I often hesitate to use other Heavy weapon teams. They die <br />to quick. Especially a lasconon squad isn't worth it. (In my opinon).<br />For just a few points more, I can get a Vendetta with twin linked<br />lascanons. Sometimes I play 2 Teams with Autocanons. The costs<br />are not so high and it doesn't hurt you so much when they die.<br /><br />My favorite Special weapon team is equipped with demoliton charges!<br />3 of them a really expensive, but they are a nice one hit wonder.<br />I fly them around with a vendetta, and try to bring them in the right<br />spot. In two of three games they do their job like I want to.<br /><br />Thanks altough for the conclusion of the special chars.<br />Usually I don't like to use them, but it's a pain to play<br />always against all the other armies with those guys!<br />GrizzlyTimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07491660240627858204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-66223697768450492722013-12-06T08:57:38.729-08:002013-12-06T08:57:38.729-08:00You are welcome. That is the goal here.You are welcome. That is the goal here.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-23779324968524626272013-12-06T07:57:48.974-08:002013-12-06T07:57:48.974-08:00Thank you for this blog, finding it very inspirati...Thank you for this blog, finding it very inspirational and entertainingAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04731736791468668234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-57670918223280932142013-12-06T06:23:42.114-08:002013-12-06T06:23:42.114-08:00you are correct. They are barrage so cover is dec...you are correct. They are barrage so cover is decided based on where the center of the blast marker is. So you ignore cover lots of time dependig on what type of coverGrumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-62818526614684133582013-12-06T04:36:05.773-08:002013-12-06T04:36:05.773-08:00if I remember right, mortars take any cover from c...if I remember right, mortars take any cover from centre of blast as there barrage weapons, so you only get cover saves in there is cover between the model and the template centre. I'll have to double check that next time I'm near a rule book.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412304888734273336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-90379459720093108812013-12-05T20:15:49.462-08:002013-12-05T20:15:49.462-08:00Mortars are cheap and effective, really can't ...Mortars are cheap and effective, really can't say that enough. Will try and get it out in a timely manner, though I may need a small break after this long one.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-26596458983415890452013-12-05T20:14:34.257-08:002013-12-05T20:14:34.257-08:00do it, they are amazing for their points. Remembe...do it, they are amazing for their points. Remember that a pinning check is caused by each mortar squad when it wounds. So a unit can have a morale check and then two pinning checks or more. As with all blast and barrage weapons, you are going to have bad games with them from time to time, but on average they do well.Grumpy Guardsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589097813598490581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-2446041097666153812013-12-05T18:26:41.885-08:002013-12-05T18:26:41.885-08:00Yeah I am going to try out two squads of mortars n...Yeah I am going to try out two squads of mortars now.Kazihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03184917018392583222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3830414113837067378.post-9796807181708374512013-12-05T17:36:05.739-08:002013-12-05T17:36:05.739-08:00Awesome article, really. Got to try those mortars,...Awesome article, really. Got to try those mortars, i've been using autocannons and missile launchers only. <br />Waiting for that new article. Cheersminiwarshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16451291251355489677noreply@blogger.com