The reason I have been bringing up some of the forge world units is that they are mobile, fast vehicles. Currently the IG is pretty static, it has some mobile elements, but building a fast and mobile army as a whole is a struggle with our current codex. We do not have a lot of outflankers, scouts, or infiltrators. And some of what we have are not very mobile nor contribute a whole lot to a fast army. Ratlings for example are infiltrators, but don't fit well in a rapidly moving army, not at least in the best way. Scout sentinels can outflank with scout, but on their own are pretty slow moving and can't react to events across the board rapidly on their own. But I think you can build a mobile IG army that does well without relying on allies to do this.
Internally to the codex without FW you have some units that are good and fast. The hellhound variants are very solid vehicles that can move quickly, shoot well, and have decent survivability. Valkyries and vendettas are flyers with hover and as such are able to move about very quickly and react to threats. But they are limited because of reserves so on their own won't be able to bring mobility as a whole to an IG army unless you go all out with 6+ of them with most of your infantry inside. Scout sentinels are ok because of their outflank ability, but are slow and weak, so not amazing here but a unit can help.
Scions are another tool to mobility. They can all deep strike and their transports, Taurox primes are fast and bring decent firepower. While scions can be subject to reserve luck, if deep striking them you don not have to worry about them going down with a valkyrie if get taken out. Scions are very useful in that they can pop in any where or ride in their transports.
While rough riders are a pretty mobile unit, they are very weak and have a limited role. Not bad units, just not great either. This is where forge world comes in to help. The salamander is one that I think is a very helpful tool here, with scout and being fast with decent firepower and for its price, you can bring a decent number of them without costing too much and still having room for more forces. The Tauros are ok, they are bit expensive for what they bring, especially when compared to the salamander, but the base heavy flamer ones are still relatively cheap and can outflank for a nimble back field unit that can threaten infantry and light vehicles.
In order to build a rapid moving Guard force, your going to have to rely on mech, IG simply can't move ground pounders fast enough, and realistically very few armies can. I would not get too invested with infantry, just enough to secure a few objectives with ObSec. Here is a quick list I did up trying to achieve the goal of a fast imperial guard army.
Hq- Yarrick (solid basic choice, a minimal CCS will work too)
Elites- Scion platoon 1x Command squad(4 meltas) 2x5 scion squads(2 meltas), 2 taurox primes
Troops- 3 vet squads with 2 plasma guns w/taurox DT for each
Fast Attack- 2x devil dogs in squadron with MM, Vendetta, 3x Salamanders
this gets you to just over 1500pts, with plenty of room for add ons or going more into another section. I might consider the salamander command tank, as its an elite choice and with its auspex it would be useful dropping cover saves, in this army you could fit two to give you some more mobile units with decent firepower and a decent ability.
You can flesh out the scions more, add more troops, add another vendetta, artillery etc. This forms a mobile core, with transports for scions, vets, and multiple fast vehicles, some with scout. It gives options, and can deal with knights if it has too and has about 18 S7 shots a turn with a good amount of melta for dealing with heavy armor. Its mobile enough to get away from assaulting units for the most part. It will take up space so will require smart placement and paying attention to where you want to be a few turns ahead.
I prefer vets here as there are less entry costs than a platoon, as with two minimum troops to fill with 4 infantry squads and 2 PCS if you went with platoons, that adds up with a mech force. Keeping the vets minimal on upgrades will help. Chimeras can be swapped for their transports, but I like the taurox's reliability moving through terrain.
As a first stab its not an amazing list by any means, but can deal with many different threats and at its core is capable of getting across the field pretty quickly. Hope this gives you ideas.
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I'm investing in some Taurox Primes soon for my Scion platoon to bring mobility to my static gunline army. Their primary advantage over valkyries is their ability to score objectives, something flyers can't do because with their base, they'll always be more than 3" from an objective.
ReplyDeleteI've found that if you DO want to use Flyers, they combo well with a well equipped Tank Commander unit. The tank commander and his escorts can usually last the 2 turns of enemy shooting necessary to get the flyers on the table, especially if you use terrain to block LOS.
Valkyries are a liability in Maelstrom of war missions because they can't score and their passengers probably won't get to an objective by turn 3 at the earliesrt. The FAST taurox and even salamander scouts allow you to score objectives in turns 1 and 2, and put more pressure on your enemy.
Wouldn't be easier just to upgrade 3 Veterans with Plasma Guns instead of 2?
ReplyDeleteWouldn't bother with a Heavy Flamer so that leaves you an extra man to equip a specialist weapon?
You could, but you don't have to. I left room in the list so that you can do that if you want too, but if you add another squad, those plasma guns start adding up to quite a bit. Just because you can take three doesn't mean you need to.
DeleteIf you were running the Vets in Chimeras I'd say two plasma guns isn't bad, but the Taurox has four firing points total (Two on each door.) so taking three would work better with those transports. Hell, I even think it'd be worth considering taking heavy weapons in those vet squads to have a fourth weapon firing from the Taurox. Granted they'd be snapshots when the transport moves but an autocannon or heavy bolter has decent rate of fire.
DeleteThe problem is that its two on each side, so its going to be really hard for the squad to shoot at one unit that is somehow on both sides of the taurox, not going to happen often.
DeleteIsn't it a 180 degree firing arc from the side of the door? So if the Taurox is pointing at the enemy unit both sides should be able to hit.
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DeleteLooked it up, there is no specific degree of firing arc, you draw line of sight from the firing point itself.
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