So finally we have the first wave and its irrefutable, skitarii are here! Model wise, love them, they look imperial, but more off the wall and with gubbins that is expected of the Mechanicus. Some of the basic rules have leaked, still missing army wide rules and the other bits, but overall each unit looks to be good, some looking really good. There are supposed to be more models on the way, with the dunewalker one of them.
First is the Ironstrider Ballstar, for 55 pts you get an opened topped walker with a similar profile to a scout sentinel, but better. Key items is that it is BS4 and armor 11 all around, two attacks and Hps, and I 3. It has a twinlinked cognis autocannon, cognis allows you to fire snap shots, including overwatch, at BS2 instead of 1, which is great. These will make decent AA in a pinch, especially in a group. They have a broad spectrum data tether, which allows friendly skitarii within 6" with the doctrina imperative to have their leadership improved by 1 till start of next turn.
Don't know what doctrina imperative looks like yet, so this is a key piece of the puzzle. They also have a searchlight. Special rules wise, they have crusader, precision shots, dunestrider which gives them a +3"to movement, running, and charges. Doctrina imperatives are the last special rule. Options, you can take five more for six in a squadron, and for 20pts you can replace the autocannon with a TL'd cognis lascannon. Right now it looks to be a heavy support choice.
Overall I like. These are going to be compared to sentinels, which is understandable. They are better. Compared to scouts, though 20pts more, they are nearly twice as fast once you factor in run moves + dunestrider + crusader, they shoot better - BS 4 + TL, and have better armor. Though front is lower than armored sentinels, they have better overall. Still opened topped, but not a huge concern. Big thing as well, they are somewhat usefull against air, with TL and cognis, they can engage multiple targets.
To me these will work good in squadrons of three or four stock, run around blasting autocannon shots at ground and air targets, and take advantage of precision shots to pick off special and heavy weapons, or characters. Also key to note is that we don't know what doctrina will do for them as well. As is though, they are good, fairly priced IMO. The lascannon upgrade is spendy, but useful and not too bad for a pair of them or upgrading one in a squadron.
Next is the Sydonian Dragoon. It's 10pts cheaper, with very similar profile. Minor differnce is WS4 and 3 attacks, otherwise same as above. Wargear is same, except weapon is the Taser lance instead of ranged weapon. The taser lance is S +3/+2 melee, joust, taser. Joust doubles it's initiative on the turn it charges, and taser causes two additional hits on a to hit roll of 6+. Special rules wise it is the same as above, but instead of precision shots, it has incense cloud, giving it a 5+ cover save.
Options, it can have same number in a squadron as the Ballstar, any model can replace it's taser lance with a radium jezzail for free, or a model can take a phosphor serpenta for 10pts - this doesn't replace the taser. The serpenta is 18" S5 AP4 assault 1, luminagen - which in short reduces the cover or a unit by 1 if it suffers a wound or glance/pen hit, plus units charging that unit can re-roll charge range.
Over all, not a bad cc unit. It is fast, which is usually the weakness of cc walkers, its relatively cheap, and has an inbuilt cover save to help it survive. This will hurt vehicles a lot on the charge, as it ups them to S8, and they can potentially hurt land raiders. Though thats not what they should go after. The jezzail is an interesting choice, its a 30" 2 shot sniper with rad poisoning, which cause 2 more wounds on a to wound roll of 6.
For me, I would keep them mostly stock with maybe two serpenta in a squadron of 4. Stick to cover an move up a flank towards a nice vehicle target or infantry unit with little dedicated anti tank weapons. They have speed and a cover save, helping with the main weaknesses of cc walkers. They aren't terribly expensive either. I like them and see them working as a good counter attack unit.
Rangers are on of the troop choices, at 65pts for 5. Same basic profile as vets, but come stock with a 4+ and a host of special rules. The ranger alpha is leadership 9 and has 2 wounds and attacks. They all have galvanic rifles, which is 30" S4 AP 4 rapid fire. They are relentless, move through cover, feel no pain (6+) and doctrina imperatives. Can have 5 more rangers, 11 per. The alpha can take items from ranged, melee, special issue, and relics of mars. If the squad is 10 man, they can take 3 special weapons, if not they can take only 2. They can take on enhanced data tether or omnispex. Omnispex reduces the cover save of targeted unit by one from shots against a unit that has it. The data tether is similar to the one the walkers get, but only effects the unit and is not cumulative.
The special weapons are good, but really here I would take ten man squads with omnispex and keep stock and plink away. Maybe some transuramic arquebus which is range 60" AP3 sniper, armor bane.
Vanguard are ten pts cheaper with same profile. They are armed with radium carbines, which are 18" S 3 Ap5 rapid fire with the same radium special rule (2+ wounds on roll of 6+ to wound). They have the same special rules minus move through cover. Options, they can take 5 more for 9pts per, the alpha can take same options. And same options regarding special weapons and wargear. Now these guys could use some special weapons. Two on my list are the plasma caliver which is 18" S7 AP2 assault 3, or the arc rifle, with is S6 AP5 rapid fire, haywire.
Depending on transport options (they can always borrow one) they can make a mean tank killer up close. Overall, there is nothing bad about them. They are good at killing infantry with their basic weapons and can get weapons to hurt tougher targets or vehicles.
Almost forgot they have another special rule, called rad saturation which causes units locked in combat with them to subtract 1 from their toughness. Not bad.
There is the list of all the leaked items and stats. Overall they have some really good weapons and options. They are priced right in my opinion, with the troops being cheaper than scions and comparable to them. Big thing is what is doctrina imperatives going to look like. But as is, nothing bad here. Some well rounded options to deal with armor, flyers, horde, and tough units. Plus they have cover save modifying tricks as well. So not bad.
Really can't wait to see more, looking great so far.
GG
The big question is what the 'doctrinal imperative' is all about?
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing it's along the lines of tyranid synapse - ie without certain (unseen yet) leaders/specialists you need to be taking leadership tests to avoid (programmed) instinctive behavior.
possiably. all we know is it's leadership based. some people optimisticly are hoping it's more like the IG orders system. but you can't issue orders to tanks so.. I think the synapse comparison is more likely
DeleteIt makes sense due to the level of cybernetics these guys are supposed to have and it would explain all the ld buffs thst are available.
DeletePersonally I'm not keen on these guys, don't know why but they just don't do it for me. The Rangers though will be good ar anti fire warrior duties though.
From reading the small fluff bits on the pages and the way the data tethers are worded, seems that it will be something similar to synapse, where if you want to do certain actions though you'll need to take a leadership test to overide their doctrina imperatives.
DeleteAll this AdMech stuff looks so good! Makes me drool a little thinking about how awesome it would be to field all these guys.
ReplyDeleteBut I have SO many Astra Militarum models to paint still... as long as it isn't limited edition I'm sure I can buy in later this year.
AWESOME! Thanks for the tips, I'm going to start saving up for a Skitarii army once I've completed my Imperial Guard and Imperial Knight armies!
ReplyDeleteIs this an inquisition tiny release with only two unit types, or its it actually going to be a codex with full units? Anybody heard?
ReplyDeleteWhy would GW not actually say anything? Like, what is gained by not building hype officially? Controlled marketing is way better than going through the entire internet hearing only rumors
The release is definitively bigger than inquisition, rumors are it's like harlequins or slightly bigger, with a hardcover codex.
DeleteGW's release strategy seems to aim at impulse buyers. Instead of one big package with all models and codex (per month), they release few kits per week and a codex in the last wave. So they can make people buy things that are cool on release, but something better might be just around the corner.
And marketing is semi-official hype-building. First, there are rumors on the internet, stating that things like Skitarii could become real, even if most don't believe it. Then there's leaked WD stuff, with cryptic messages of what's next week (discussed on the web = free viral marketing), followed piecemeal by the content of the announcing WD (some pics, rule parts). Then the official release comes, and everyone is astonished that the high-res pictures look much better than the leaked low-res handy photos of a WD photo.
AFAIK that's called guerilla marketing. Instead of working their asses off to promote stuff, WD leaks will make the way around the web. Every page (like BolS) wants the stuff to promote itself, so once someone posts something, it spreads to every community site out there. If GW wanted to keep it under wraps, removing the WD announcements would result in only vague rumors until it's on the GW store page. But no, this way they have sought-after leaks each week, building a week-long hype of "who gets more info".
Dude, thanks. You've totally made what I first thought irrational into something sensible. I actually understand GW 100% better.
DeleteIt makes a lot of sense from a marketing perspective. They know they can't stop all leaks, and if they did, why are they still letting WD pics "slip" early.
DeleteThe Radium Carbines are assault 3 instead of rapid fire. Combining that many shots with bs 4 and a special rule generating more wounds makes for good firepower. Still str 3 though...
ReplyDeletei guess it is just like lasguns, just put enough shots into something and it will die...
DeleteOther thing that i am not sure about is how to outfit the walker... The taser lance is awesome on a charge, 4 S8 hits that can generate more hits on 6's on I6 is great, but the jezzail is also aa good choice. it is only two shots, but sniper and rad posoning means that if you get a 6 on to-wound, you get two AP2 wounds. That is quite nice against monstrous creatures and TEQ...
Yeah, the wording of the Radium rule means you can wound anything, even a wraithknight, on a 6. With 6s generating 2 wounds, it works effectively like poison 5+ (1/3 will always wound).
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